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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Nov 29, 2009 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Speaking of Ohio shows - 11/29/79

Can anybody give me a definitive set list for this show?

Deadbase and Setlists.net both have the same list:

11-29-79 Cleveland Public Hall, Cleveland, Oh. (Thu)
1: Alabama> Promised, TLEO, Mama Tried> Mexicali, Althea, Easy To Love You, Minglewood, B. E. Women> L. L. Rain> Don't Ease
2: Shakedown> Samson, High Time, Estimated> Eyes> Drumz> NFA> Black Peter> Around> Johnny B. Goode E: U. S. Blues

Problem: Cannot find a source that includes Althea or NFA.

LMA has four circulating copies, of which only in the Miller source does the description actually match the files that are there - http://www.archive.org/details/gd1979-11-29.sbd.miller.95831.sbeok.flac16

Note that this one has Candyman where deadbase has TLEO, and TLEO where deadbase has Althea. Minglewood also has a weird splice during the last big jam that takes you right to the "T for New York City" which threw me at first, because I was expecting "T right here in Cleveland." Miller also has Minglewood before Easy to Love You, not after, and no NFA.

Set 1

Alabama Getaway ->
The Promised Land
Candyman
Mama Tried ->
Mexicali Blues
They Love Each Other
New Minglewood Blues
Easy To Love You
Brown Eyed Women
Looks Like Rain ->
Don't Ease Me In

Set 2

Shakedown Street ->
Samson And Delilah
High Time
Estimated Prophet ->
Eyes Of The World ->
Space ->
Drums ->
Black Peter ->
Around And Around ->
Johnny B. Goode

Encore
U.S. Blues

None of the three other sources have either NFA or Althea, which leads me to believe that they are simply missing or were not played at all. The other question is Minglewood -- was the New York City line standard then, or is this possibly from another show?

This post was modified by snow_and_rain on 2009-11-29 23:10:19

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Nov 29, 2009 5:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of Ohio shows - 11/29/79

Miller's setlist is right; Althea and NFA were not played.

From deadlists.com:

Alabama Getaway [6:17] > The Promised Land [4:12] ; Candyman [7:18] ; Mama Tried [2:33] > Mexicali Blues [4:23] ; They Love Each Other [7:10] ; New Minglewood Blues [7:16] ; Easy To Love You [3:44] ; Brown Eyed Women [5:31] ; Looks Like Rain [8:05] > Don't Ease Me In [4:26]
Shakedown Street [11:49] > Samson And Delilah [7:01] ; High Time [7:53] ; Estimated Prophet [13:29] > Eyes Of The World [16:02] > Space [8:13] > Drums [7:#15] > Black Peter [10:31] > Around And Around [4:59] > Johnny B. Goode [4:40]
Encore: U.S. Blues [5:29]

My advice is to never use setlists.net to verify setlists. It's led many a poor soul astray.

As for Minglewood, I don't know....perhaps Bob was lost?

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Poster: Yankee9 Date: Nov 29, 2009 7:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of Ohio shows - Dayton 81

Here's a seldom discussed gem from Dayton, OH.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-11-30.nak300.munder.9591.sbeok.shnf

Mack the Knife is a joke, but this is a really well played show...we could really use a sonic upgrade here though

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Feb 22, 2010 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of Ohio shows - Dayton 81

True, true... Here's my review for the Ohio Project.

11-30-81 - Hara Arena, Dayton, OH
1: Minglewood Blues, Mack the Knife filler, Bird Song> Little Red Rooster, They Love Each Other, Cassidy, Tennessee Jed, Let It Grow> Don't Ease Me In
2: Women Are Smarter, It Must Have Been the Roses, Estimated Prophet> Eyes of the World> Drums> The Other One> Wharf Rat> Sugar Magnolia, E: Might As Well

Source: http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-11-30.nak300.munder.9591.sbeok.shnf

This was the second stop on the Dead’s first tour since the fall in Europe. This 5,000-seat arena in Dayton was still fairly intimate. A pretty good audience source on this one.

Rockin’ Minglewood is a pretty good way to start the Dead’s first show ever in Dayton, birthplace of the Wright brothers, Guided by Voices and lots of other greats. “Mack the Knife” is a little bit over-celebrated here -- pretty much just a one verse filler/tuning while they’re working out technical difficulties. But this is a pretty mean Bird Song. Jerry dials in and finds some room to really soar around that old arena. Good stuff. A great Rooster follows – this really was a good era for Lil Red Rooster. TLEO is fine, and after that they really start to cook. Cassidy and Jed are both very well played. Let it Grow is extraordinary – probably the best 80s Ohio track so far. And Don’t Ease is a nice little rocker to close it out.

Samson and IMHBTR work surprisingly well as the first two slots of set two. I actually think a Samson opener bodes well for the rest of the set. Estimated is good, but it’s Eyes that’s the real payoff here. This one doesn’t sound too terribly rushed or slow or anything – it’s just right in the groove. The back end is anchored by an exceptionally strong Wharf Rat, featuring some pretty heady jamming down the wire – a little rough around the edges, but Jerry is so amped up that it all works out. Sugar Mag is also played with vigor and elan. Great show all-around. Best Ohio show of ‘81 by far.

Highlights: Let it Grow, Eyes, Wharf, Sugar Mag

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 29, 2009 7:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of Ohio shows - Dayton 81

What it could use is a SBD version. Waaaaay too much crowd noise to make it listenable for most people.

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 29, 2009 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of Ohio shows - 11/29/79

I can't help you but thanks for the info on the Ohio shows. My little girl filed the list for me. Presently enjoying your selection. Praise, Praise to ya.